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Akhotoh Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
well thats what faith can do..
its a choice whether you believe it or not !
If you believe it will happen , if you doubt it it will not!
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Artezna Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww, Fiskefyren blocked me. That's cute. Can't handle loosing an argument. I had taken a long time to write out a response to him disproving every single one of his "points" too. Hahaha... Normally I'm not this sarcastic, but I'm kind of amused. Every person I correct, blocks me. I am enjoying the hilarity. 
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know that feeling oh too well, LOL. People are very sensitive these days.
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Artezna Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol, oh well. bunneh icon17 
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DisasterTheAbsol Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So true. Like, when someone I knew was sick, some people would always pray for them.... you're just clapsing your hands together, losing your eyes, and sometimes just on your knees. How does that solves all the world's problems? It's something I never got.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
In public? This is against God's will!!! Matthew 6:5
-with love from an Agnostic
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Artezna Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Taken out of context. You are not to pray in public with intention of receiving recognition or praise from others. You can still pray in in public if your intentions are to glorify God, according to the rest of the passage. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014
You know darn well what I'm talking about when I say "public". Why are you being so dishonest? I believe that the Bible says that is a sin as well, one punished with Hellfire. 
-with love from an Agnostic

PS. you might enjoy reading this: fiskefyren.deviantart.com/jour…
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Artezna Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know what you meant by public, that's why I replied? Dishonest? Where was I being dishonest? Clearly you misinterpret the Bible.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014
So you're wrong then. This is too easy.

"Clearly you misinterpret the Bible."
I do? How so? All I've done is tell you what the Bible says. How is that misinterpreting? Maybe you should read the Bible at some point (because we all know most Christians haven't read the Bible)?
-with love from an Agnostic
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Artezna Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The Bible is mostly written in parables and phrases. "Public" is not to be taken literally. It means trying to receive credit or recognition for good works rather than of glorifying God. I'm telling YOU what the Bible says. I have read the Bible. I think YOU need to re-read it. Also, I have never told you my beliefs; I don't recall saying I was a Christian. I have in fact, read the Bible I had no intention of insulting you; I corrected you and you got defensive. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2014
Yup, which makes it even less reliable. Christians like you are doing my job for me <3
Ohhhh.... so public doesn't mean public? Okay, I guess "killing gay people" doesn't mean "killing gay people" either? I find it laughable that you can say dumb shit like this.
And I'm telling you that you apparently can't read.
I think you need to read the Bible (you know, for the first time, because I know you're lying about having read it).
You didn't have to tell me, your ignorance quite obviously shows that you're a Theist, I care little for what dumbass religion that you subscribed too, they are all wrong after all ^_^
So you say, and yet you prove that you're either lying or don't have a clue as to what it says. But that honestly isn't very uncommon for Americans, a lot of Americans can't read or write.
Regardless, I'm wasting my time here, you have a good one and I hope that one day you'll grow a brain and sober up. 
-with love from an Agnostic 
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MamaLucia Featured By Owner May 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Prayer is just to impress other people that you are TRYING to do something.  But Yoda was right:  "There is only do, or do not.  There is no try." :laughing: :D
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Fuzzyelf Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
A sad sad truth. I know whenever someone says to me that they will pray for me, I know they mean it in a good way but there are times where I just want to tell them that they are in fact not helping at all. I donate time and money to help people who need help. I'm actually doing something rather than clasping my hands together and mumble. And when they counter that with that their praying was the reason I decided to help and then praise God and don't offer a single 'thank you' to me, I feel insulted.
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You can't fix stupid. You just make sure it doesn't reproduce.
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BlackDiamond874 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
"You can't fix stupid... There's not a pill you can take... There's not a class you can go to... Stupid is forEVAH." - Ron White
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
Ignorance can be educated, stupidity lasts forever -Aristophanes
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I got it from him too. :)))
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BlackDiamond874 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
To a degree, I felt obligated to use that quote, SHEERLY because of what you said.
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Fuzzyelf Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
You can fix stupid. Education, PROPER education. Teaching kids how to think rather than what to think. I was raised in a house where I was taught to think for myself and make up my own mind.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
I think you may have confused ignorance with stupidity, my friend. True stupidity can never be fixed :/ true you might be able to straighten it out a bit but in truth it's like rotten food: no matter what you add to it, some of it is still rotten and it can never become un-rotten.
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I meant adults on whom facts don't work.
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:iconfuzzyelf:
Fuzzyelf Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
Excellent point. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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StudioStone Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
NO
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RollerTrack3 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
To what? If it's about the art's message, it's the truth, you can't bluntly say 'NO'.
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sharlexplosion Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
i dont believe in religion but having religion can be a very good thing. religion gives people faith and makes many people happy when they are saddened. it can stop people from fearing death and be happy when they do die. it also gives answers to questions we do not know and may never know, like what created the universe? he prayed, so what? is it wrong for him to have a faith? if you say yes than i think its wrong to be gay.
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EbolaBears Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
:no:
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wrong. Religion doesn't give answers to questions we don't know the answers to. The answers that it does give are either lies or nonsense. The questions for which science doesn't have the answers yet doesn't give religion the right to make up whatever answers they see fit. Religion and faith are society's greatest poisons.
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sharlexplosion Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013
its really your opinion to say its lies and they are still answers even if they aren't right yes its false hope but its still hope and it can give many people peace of mind.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
the fuck you talking about? opinions doesn't make anything "right". if your opinion is that Earth is flat... that's not an opinion, that's just you being an idiot.
-with love from an Agnostic 
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:iconbjockes:
BJockes Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013
"its false hope but its still hope": beware, too much (vain) hope can only lead you to disappointment. 
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:iconfiskefyren:
fiskefyren Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013
hope is the first step towards the road of disappointment.
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:iconbjockes:
BJockes Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
Absolutely. 
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:iconzecorezecron:
Zecorezecron Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Well, it's more than you did.
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This year's award for stupidest comeback, ladies and gentlemen.
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:iconzecorezecron:
Zecorezecron Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
But am I wrong?
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're comparing a world leader to a college student who hates humanity. You do the math.
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Zecorezecron Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
But am I wrong?
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Are you seriously that dense? A president's responsibilities far outweigh that of someone like me, it's that person's duty to not bullshit himself or the people who voted for him. It would seem that in America, that the people most fit mentally and intellectually to hold office are the ones most barred from it. Maybe that's why Bush had two consecutive terms, cause idiots were in the majority when voting. I personally don't even care if most of humanity gets wiped out tomorrow, would be a lot better world. Someone in power however should actually do something when a problem arises and not talk to his imaginary friend and magically hope for a solution.
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Zecorezecron Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Yes, because a person several hundred miles away can totally just "do something" when disaster strikes.

Oh, and you never answered my question.

Am I wrong that, by praying, George Bush did more than you, who did absolutely nothing.

You see, even the smallest fraction of anything is still more than nothing.

Heck, I wasn't even arguing about God there. I was just trying to say that you were an asshole.
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A billion hands clasped in prayer accomplish infinitely less than one hand clasped in work. Prayer is just talking to yourself and wasting air. Besides, how could I do anything? I'm not even American, you troglodyte. Your arguments pretty much describe you as an irrational and ignorant creature.
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kimbo2390 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013
~Louis-the-Hedgehog
If I was god I would show people im real,
If I was god I would stop anyone who get`s bully,
I would stop child abuse,
animal abuse,
Stop people from doing stupid shit and stop other bad things that happen in this world. But hey god is up there and people are still the same.
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Louis-the-Hedgehog Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013
Put it this way, say YOU were God. What would you want more of? People to do what is right or simply believe you exist?
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ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, at least you didn't explicitly say "Prayer does nothing". To the theists' credit, based on my experience with Christians, they very often pray just before they take an action, asking God to make them successful, or they pray while they're figuring things out and making a plan, so it's not as if they never have a plan of action to follow after the prayer is done. Prayer can bring individuals together- even as it drives groups apart- and give people something positive to do while they're trying to come up with something else.:pray::worship:
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SupermanLovesAspen Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, but the problem is they actually think it works. The most ridiculous one is when military personnel pray to stay safe. Prayer makes 0 difference in the number of pieces of shrapnel they'll be pulling out of their asses.
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ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's true, but I still believe prayer really can make a difference. Even if someone's praying to a deity that's totally fake. Often times the most important part of human success comes from attitudes, confidence and beliefs and stuff like that that's in people's heads. Believing that a deity will increase your chances (but not give a guarantee) of coming back safe may not affect the weapons on the battlefield, but it CAN effect the mindsets of the soldiers, and that might make a difference.

I'm not sure how often this happens, (probably rarely) but people DO pray for courage, and I'm sure with all the people that pray for that, some of them actually GET courage after praying if they're faithful enough.
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StalkingCoco Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
Nothing was probably the best thing Bush could do.
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Satan-Is-Cool Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Nothing fails like prayer.
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DiseasedxDisciple Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I prayed for God to help me get to the Philippines to meet my fiancee.
He inspired three people who barely know me to give a total of $1200 to me.
I never asked any of them to do this. I only shared that I wanted to meet my fiancee with one.
This was a direct answer to my prayer.
Prayer works.
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junktru Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012
Wow what about muslims? They pray too.
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